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Post edited 7:51 am – July 29, 2009 by jewell
There seems to be some confusion here about the death certificate not being signed…
and that the burial can't take place with this DC….
I just wanted to share these facts.
- Because the Doctor refused to sign the dc, it became the coroner's case
- The coroner has signed the temporary dc, His signature is blacked out.
- Because it is his case, no other signatures are needed.
- Because it is deferred, that enables the burial to take place.
- A burial can take place with a Temporary Death Certificate signed by the coroner.
- A burial permit has been filed.
Survivors cannot bury or otherwise dispose of a corpse until a licensed physician signs a permanent death certificate or a medical examiner signs a temporary death certificate. Medical examiners (or coroners) list the cause of death as “pending” until further laboratory tests determine the actual cause of death
(* the corner did sign on mj's temporary certificate, but it is blacked out, i guess for security reasons)
A burial permit has been filed…
A burial permit was filed with the Los Angeles County's Vital Records department, but that document has not been made public.
The death certificate, signed by sister La Toya, is dated Tuesday and was filed by a deputy coroner. The cause of death is noted as “deferred.” A burial permit was also filed with the Los Angeles County's Office of Vital Records, but that document has not been made public.
When there is insufficient information available to complete the death certificate, a “Pending Investigation” or “Deferred” Facts and Verdict certificate is issued. This deferred certificate enables the funeral services and burial to take place while additional chemical, microscopic slide preparation and examination, and investigation continues. At the culmination of these tests and investigation, the ruling is made based on all available information. A supplemental death certificate is then issued with the cause of death and ruling which supersedes the “Pending” or “Deferred” death certificate.
Edited to Add***Latoya did not sign the DC…
She is the “Informant”
“Generally, an informant's name and address are given. The informant is the person who provided the information for the death certificate. Often this is a son or daughter or other close relative who has had direct contact with the deceased person for many years and who, therefore, is familiar with the deceased.”
The information that is blacked out is Latoya's address…
I went and looked at my dad's DC and my brother is the informant.
Here is a link to a Los Angeles DC that has been made public record… http://marysuehubbard.com/MSHScan.gif
it is a very clear copy and you can see what the blocks on the DC are for…
As you can see on the example DC that the corner did not sign, this is because her Doctor did.
Only the one signature is needed, not both…
I also want to point out that the big Lettering on the DC
“INFORMATIONAL, NOT A VALID DOCUMENT TO ESTABLISH IDENTITY”
Is on ALL Information Death Certificates… If you are not a family member you can only get an informational copy…
it means just what it says and nothing more.
http://www.cdph.ca.gov/certlic…..lCopy.aspx
The Death Certificate that has been issued that you have seen is not a fake…
it is a temporary Death certificate…
and a Burial can take place with this DC.
When the cause of death comes back they will then issue a new DC.
Now i am not putting anyones theory down at all….
or saying if this is a hoax or not….
but just want to clear up the confusion about this and get the facts out there for you all.
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Post edited 6:22 am – July 25, 2009 by SkylinexBleedsxRed
Why wait until a month later? Figure that one out. Walter Kronkite just passed away about 4 days ago, And he had or is in the process of having his funeral. Walter Kronkite wasn't nearly as popular as Michael; Yet this story can't even be put to rest because of people contradicting themselves. The burial process should alone be a dead giveaway that something is not right. It will be one month tomorrow. This cannot possibly happen. I have never heard of such burial antics.
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Then why did LaToya sign it?
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Post edited 6:58 am – July 25, 2009 by jewell
SkylinexBleedsxRed said:
Post edited 1:22 pm – July 24, 2009 by SkylinexBleedsxRed
Why wait until a month later? Figure that one out. Walter Kronkite just passed away about 4 days ago, And he had or is in the process of having his funeral. Walter Kronkite wasn't nearly as popular as Michael; Yet this story can't even be put to rest because of people contradicting themselves. The burial process should alone be a dead giveaway that something is not right. It will be one month tomorrow. This cannot possibly happen. I have never heard of such burial antics.
Sky, It happens more than you think,
and Yes, it is possible!
James Brown died on Christmas Day 06 and was buried 3 months later in March 07.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Brown
His Body remained in a Gold Casket in a Temperature Controlled Room in his estate.
His family could not agree where to bury him and this is why.
10 weeks after his death, they finally agreed on a place.
I am not saying that MJ isn't alive or saying that this is not a hoax…
I just want to clear up the misconception about the Death Certificate.
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Post edited 6:52 am – July 25, 2009 by SkylinexBleedsxRed
jewell said:
SkylinexBleedsxRed said:
Post edited 1:22 pm – July 24, 2009 by SkylinexBleedsxRed
Why wait until a month later? Figure that one out. Walter Kronkite just passed away about 4 days ago, And he had or is in the process of having his funeral. Walter Kronkite wasn't nearly as popular as Michael; Yet this story can't even be put to rest because of people contradicting themselves. The burial process should alone be a dead giveaway that something is not right. It will be one month tomorrow. This cannot possibly happen. I have never heard of such burial antics.
Sky, It happens more than you think,
and Yes, it is possible!
James Brown died on Christmas Day 06 and was buried 3 months later in March 07.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Brown
His Body remained in a Gold Casket in a Temperature Controlled Room in his estate.
His family could not agree where to bury him and this is why.
They also did not have his public or private memorial for 10 weeks.
I am not saying that MJ isn't alive or saying that this is not a hoax…
I just want to clear up the misconception about the Death Certificate.
That's crazy. I never knew that about James Brown. I don't believe he faked his death(James Brown). Hold on though, If I remember correctly, Didn't James Brown have his funeral on December 30? I remember seeing a picture of him in his coffin and Michael was there.
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Post edited 6:53 am – July 25, 2009 by jewell
SkylinexBleedsxRed said:
jewell said:
SkylinexBleedsxRed said:
Post edited 1:22 pm – July 24, 2009 by SkylinexBleedsxRed
Why wait until a month later? Figure that one out. Walter Kronkite just passed away about 4 days ago, And he had or is in the process of having his funeral. Walter Kronkite wasn't nearly as popular as Michael; Yet this story can't even be put to rest because of people contradicting themselves. The burial process should alone be a dead giveaway that something is not right. It will be one month tomorrow. This cannot possibly happen. I have never heard of such burial antics.
Sky, It happens more than you think,
and Yes, it is possible!
James Brown died on Christmas Day 06 and was buried 3 months later in March 07.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Brown
His Body remained in a Gold Casket in a Temperature Controlled Room in his estate.
His family could not agree where to bury him and this is why.
They also did not have his public or private memorial for 10 weeks.
I am not saying that MJ isn't alive or saying that this is not a hoax…
I just want to clear up the misconception about the Death Certificate.
That's crazy. I never knew that about James Brown. I don't believe he faked his death.
You're right, He didn't fake his death! 
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SkylinexBleedsxRed said:
Post edited 1:52 pm – July 24, 2009 by SkylinexBleedsxRed
jewell said:
SkylinexBleedsxRed said:
Post edited 1:22 pm – July 24, 2009 by SkylinexBleedsxRed
Why wait until a month later? Figure that one out. Walter Kronkite just passed away about 4 days ago, And he had or is in the process of having his funeral. Walter Kronkite wasn't nearly as popular as Michael; Yet this story can't even be put to rest because of people contradicting themselves. The burial process should alone be a dead giveaway that something is not right. It will be one month tomorrow. This cannot possibly happen. I have never heard of such burial antics.
Sky, It happens more than you think,
and Yes, it is possible!
James Brown died on Christmas Day 06 and was buried 3 months later in March 07.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Brown
His Body remained in a Gold Casket in a Temperature Controlled Room in his estate.
His family could not agree where to bury him and this is why.
They also did not have his public or private memorial for 10 weeks.
I am not saying that MJ isn't alive or saying that this is not a hoax…
I just want to clear up the misconception about the Death Certificate.
That's crazy. I never knew that about James Brown. I don't believe he faked his death(James Brown). Hold on though, If I remember correctly, Didn't James Brown have his funeral on December 30? I remember seeing a picture of him in his coffin and Michael was there.
you're right sky, i mistyped…
I meant to say 10 weeks after his death they finally decided on a burial place… i will go change that!
They did have a memorial for him on the 28, and 30th i believe.
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Post edited 7:53 am – July 29, 2009 by jewell
Peace said:
Then why did LaToya sign it?
Latoya did not sign the DC…
She is the “Informant”
“Generally, an informant's name and address are given. The informant is the person who provided the information for the death certificate. Often this is a son or daughter or other close relative who has had direct contact with the deceased person for many years and who, therefore, is familiar with the deceased.”
The information that is blacked out is Latoya's address…
I went and looked at my dad's DC and my brother is the informant.
Here is a link to a Los Angeles DC that has been made public record… http://marysuehubbard.com/MSHScan.gif
it is a very clear copy and you can see what the blocks on the DC are for…
As you can see on the example DC that the corner did not sign, this is because her Doctor did.
Only the one signature is needed, not both…
I also want to point out that the big Lettering on the DC
“INFORMATIONAL, NOT A VALID DOCUMENT TO ESTABLISH IDENTITY”
Is on ALL Information Death Certificates… If you are not a family member you can only get an informational copy…
it means just what it says and nothing more.
http://www.cdph.ca.gov/certlic…..lCopy.aspx
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whos signature is on it ? Didnt someone said that latoya signed it ? I can read the name “Jona MariE Fielding Mo VE” or something like that..or does that mean something ? i see no latoya jackson sign on it
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5:51 am
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GermanLady said:
whos signature is on it ? Didnt someone said that latoya signed it ? I can read the name “Jona MariE Fielding Mo VE” or something like that..or does that mean something ? i see no latoya jackson sign on it
the coroner signed it and the name at the bottom is jonathan e fielding…
Jonathan E. Fielding, M.D., M.P.H. is Director of Public Health and Health Officer for Los Angeles County
http://www.americanlegacy.org/2062.aspx
Latoya did not sign it, she was the informant.
it is her address that is blacked out.
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jewell said:
the coroner signed it and the name at the bottom is jonathan e fielding…
Jonathan E. Fielding, M.D., M.P.H. is Director of Public Health and Health Officer for Los Angeles County
http://www.americanlegacy.org/2062.aspx
Latoya did not sign it, she was the informant.
it is her address that is blacked out.
Mhh so does that meybe mean it is signed.. ??
Sorry for asking, but i dont understand what this Mans job is ? Is he somethink like a Dr. ?
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Post edited 4:31 am – July 27, 2009 by jewell
GermanLady said:
jewell said:
the coroner signed it and the name at the bottom is jonathan e fielding…
Jonathan E. Fielding, M.D., M.P.H. is Director of Public Health and Health Officer for Los Angeles County
http://www.americanlegacy.org/2062.aspx
Latoya did not sign it, she was the informant.
it is her address that is blacked out.
Mhh so does that meybe mean it is signed.. ??
Sorry for asking, but i dont understand what this Mans job is ? Is he somethink like a Dr. ?
Mr. Feildings signature is a stamped signature that is required at the bottom of the DC.
Jonathan E. Fielding, M.D., M.P.H. is Director of Public Health and Health Officer for Los Angeles County
*edited to add that the sig of mr fielding is not a stamp but on original sign in purple ink as required.
The Coroner DID sign the Death Certificate, his name is blacked out.
by signing the dc. the coroner declared him dead.
This is a valid DC…
and this is the only thing that is bothering me about the hoax,
because this is a true DC…
I respect the admin here,
but i do believe that the article they have on the bog about the Death Certificate is not correct….
and i don't expect anyone to take my word for it…
please do your own research and you will see.
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jewell said:
Post edited 6:34 am – July 26, 2009 by jewell
GermanLady said:
jewell said:
the coroner signed it and the name at the bottom is jonathan e fielding…
Jonathan E. Fielding, M.D., M.P.H. is Director of Public Health and Health Officer for Los Angeles County
http://www.americanlegacy.org/2062.aspx
Latoya did not sign it, she was the informant.
it is her address that is blacked out.
Mhh so does that meybe mean it is signed.. ??
Sorry for asking, but i dont understand what this Mans job is ? Is he somethink like a Dr. ?
Mr. Feildings signature is a stamped signature that is required at the bottom of the DC.
Jonathan E. Fielding, M.D., M.P.H. is Director of Public Health and Health Officer for Los Angeles County
The Coroner DID sign the Death Certificate, his name is blacked out.
by signing the dc. the coroner declared him dead.
This is a valid DC…
and this is the only thing that is bothering me about the hoax,
because this is a true DC…
I respect the admin here,
but i do believe that the article they have on the bog about the Death Certificate is not correct….
and i don't expect anyone to take my word for it…
please do your own research and you will see.
Thank you for clearing the death certificate thing up ; so we are clear now that this would be a valid certificate.
Operative word here being : WOULD
There have been reports that the death certificate that was leaked to the public could be a fake ; that the real one would not be divulged ?
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Post edited 11:56 pm – July 26, 2009 by jewell
Anna.K said:
jewell said:
Post edited 6:34 am – July 26, 2009 by jewell
GermanLady said:
jewell said:
the coroner signed it and the name at the bottom is jonathan e fielding…
Jonathan E. Fielding, M.D., M.P.H. is Director of Public Health and Health Officer for Los Angeles County
http://www.americanlegacy.org/2062.aspx
Latoya did not sign it, she was the informant.
it is her address that is blacked out.
Mhh so does that meybe mean it is signed.. ??
Sorry for asking, but i dont understand what this Mans job is ? Is he somethink like a Dr. ?
Mr. Feildings signature is a stamped signature that is required at the bottom of the DC.
Jonathan E. Fielding, M.D., M.P.H. is Director of Public Health and Health Officer for Los Angeles County
The Coroner DID sign the Death Certificate, his name is blacked out.
by signing the dc. the coroner declared him dead.
This is a valid DC…
and this is the only thing that is bothering me about the hoax,
because this is a true DC…
I respect the admin here,
but i do believe that the article they have on the bog about the Death Certificate is not correct….
and i don't expect anyone to take my word for it…
please do your own research and you will see.
Thank you for clearing the death certificate thing up ; so we are clear now that this would be a valid certificate.
Operative word here being : WOULD
There have been reports that the death certificate that was leaked to the public could be a fake ; that the real one would not be divulged ?
I believe that the one leaked to the public was the real one on the computer system…
they had a security breach and an employee got a copy of the DC and leaked it to the media.
This is the temporary DC that they leaked…. it is real…
When the test results come back, they will issue a supplemental dc to go along with the temporary one.
A Death Certificate will be public record once it is recorded,
but the public record dc will not show the cause of death.
only the family will receive a copy of the dc that has the cause of death.
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Thank you for making it clear to me .. so .. mhh that makes me lose hope, cause that would mean if MJ faket his Death its illegal and if he ever would be found alive would mean he goes to jail, presupposed he is not in a withness protection programm and all the hoax of beeing dead is made up from Police, court and everything like that to protect him
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jewell said:
Post edited 6:34 am – July 26, 2009 by jewell
GermanLady said:
jewell said:
the coroner signed it and the name at the bottom is jonathan e fielding…
Jonathan E. Fielding, M.D., M.P.H. is Director of Public Health and Health Officer for Los Angeles County
http://www.americanlegacy.org/2062.aspx
Latoya did not sign it, she was the informant.
it is her address that is blacked out.
Mhh so does that meybe mean it is signed.. ??
Sorry for asking, but i dont understand what this Mans job is ? Is he somethink like a Dr. ?
Mr. Feildings signature is a stamped signature that is required at the bottom of the DC.
Jonathan E. Fielding, M.D., M.P.H. is Director of Public Health and Health Officer for Los Angeles County
The Coroner DID sign the Death Certificate, his name is blacked out.
by signing the dc. the coroner declared him dead.
This is a valid DC…
and this is the only thing that is bothering me about the hoax,
because this is a true DC…
I respect the admin here,
but i do believe that the article they have on the bog about the Death Certificate is not correct….
and i don't expect anyone to take my word for it…
please do your own research and you will see.
Oh, OK, this is what I was referring to when I was thinking about the “fake” :
Harvey said he learned that coroner’s employees were inappropriately accessing Jackson’s death certificate after he received a tip alleging that a funeral home employee created a fake death certificate for Jackson in the computer system.
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Thank you for making it clear to me .. so .. mhh that makes me lose hope, cause that would mean if MJ faket his Death its illegal and if he ever would be found alive would mean he goes to jail, presupposed he is not in a withness protection programm and all the hoax of beeing dead is made up from Police, court and everything like that to protect him
awww… Germanlady, i don't want you to lose hope….
I just want to clear up the confusion about the Death Certificate.
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i know you just want to clear up this 
So, signed is signed, that makes it officially that this Person who was in the Ambulance is dead, but we dont know if its really Michael
Uhh but i am scared now, if he himself faket the death he should better never been found somewhere, that would be horrible for him. i pray he is in protection programm or never will be found.
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But didnt someone say that the DC should be signed before the body was released to the family and it was signed on the 7/7/09. Either way it still dosent add up.
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But didnt someone say that the DC should be signed before the body was released to the family and it was signed on the 7/7/09. Either way it still dosent add up.
I don't know about that – but the reason behind the DC leak was apparently because an employee got tipped that Jackson's DC was fake one fabricated by a funeral home…. Urgh, with all this media crap, we can't tell the lies from the truth anymore.
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Post edited 1:28 am – July 27, 2009 by emo_pinkt
Anna.K said:
emo_pinkt said:
But didnt someone say that the DC should be signed before the body was released to the family and it was signed on the 7/7/09. Either way it still dosent add up.
I don't know about that – but the reason behind the DC leak was apparently because an employee got tipped that Jackson's DC was fake one fabricated by a funeral home…. Urgh, with all this media crap, we can't tell the lies from the truth anymore.
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxd…..mp;ret=all
The loink's not working so I'll put what she said here:
Don't focus on he said she said but focus on fact.
I could care less as to what the media reports on Michaels death. I focus on fact. That is what drives me. I go on the aspect of believing nothing of what I hear and believe only half of what I see.
Anyone can say just about anything they want but the important thing is CAN THEY PROVE IT?
Take everything you have heard and throw it out the window. Now lets focus on CALIFORNIA LAW.
California law states the coroner can NOT release a body to a family without a completed and signed death certificate? Ok that is great, wonderful LAW but then tell me why they released the body to the Jackson family on June 27, 2009 but yet the death certificate was stamped with the date July 7, 2009??
Humm titty dum dum!
Also why does the California burial law state : 103070. The body of any person whose death occurs in this state, or whose body is found in the state, or
that is brought in from outside the state, shall NOT be temporarily held pending disposition more than eight
calendar days after death.
Another humm titty dum dum!!!
And TMZ are you kidding??? The shit garbage you report and that is what it is SHIT GARBAGE.. sorry but my 12 year old daughter could write better stories than your staff!
Show us some of this footage of Dr Murry. They can get a pic of Michael in the ambulance but can NOt provide us with a pic of the Dr.?
Humm titty dum dum.
Media releases that the Dr. was in the ambulance with Michael and wouldn't allow paramedics to work on him but that he insisted on doing the work his own self??? but yet the photo released to the public shows paramedics working on michael??
Humm titty dum dum. All the pics and footage of them unloading michael at the hospital but Dr. Murry is NOT in any
of them. That is another humm titty fuckin dum dum right there isn't it?
ALL MICHAEL FANS… ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS STAY FOCUSED ON FACT. I'M HERE WITH YA BABY!!
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GermanLady said:
i know you just want to clear up this
So, signed is signed, that makes it officially that this Person who was in the Ambulance is dead, but we dont know if its really Michael
True , we don't know who the person in the ambulance is/was.
But the identifying info in the DC is Michael's.
hummmm…. i am not sure,
but i would think that somehow that would be illegal to try and pass a body off as someone else…
but i don't know , that would be something interesting to research!
I am trying to figure out since the DC is a real one and has been signed, how the hoax could work….
unless mj was planning to disappear forever….
i don't know how it could work with a comeback and not be illegal or fraudulent…
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Post edited 7:14 am – July 27, 2009 by jewell
emo_pinkt said:
Post edited 8:28 am – July 26, 2009 by emo_pinkt
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxd…..mp;ret=all
The loink's not working so I'll put what she said here:
Now lets focus on CALIFORNIA LAW.
California law states the coroner can NOT release a body to a family without a completed and signed death certificate? Ok that is great, wonderful LAW but then tell me why they released the body to the Jackson family on June 27, 2009 but yet the death certificate was stamped with the date July 7, 2009??
Humm titty dum dum!
Also why does the California burial law state : 103070. The body of any person whose death occurs in this state, or whose body is found in the state, or
that is brought in from outside the state, shall NOT be temporarily held pending disposition more than eight
calendar days after death.
Another humm titty dum dum!!
you are correct about the law, yes.
and the body was released on the 27 and the dc stamped on 7-7, you are correct.
“However, deaths involving unknown or suspicious reasons require a lengthy coroner’s investigation, and death certificates remain incomplete as they go from mortuaries to coroners to local health departments and, lastly, to the Department of Health Services. In some cases, family members of deceased persons can wait almost a year to receive a completed death certificate.”
*my note*you can see that it after it was signed by the coroner ,DHS signed and dated it.
my g'mom died on the 11 and hers was stamped on the 20th, this is normal.
Completed death certificates are required to settle estates.
In California, mortuaries are required to receive a death certificate signed by a coroner or doctor before they may proceed with a burial or cremation. “
*my note* this dc has been signed by the coroner and DHS…
so they may proceed with the burial.
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1:54 pm
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emo_pinkt said:
Post edited 8:28 am – July 26, 2009 by emo_pinkt
Also why does the California burial law state : 103070. The body of any person whose death occurs in this state, or whose body is found in the state, or
that is brought in from outside the state, shall NOT be temporarily held pending disposition more than eight
calendar days after death.
Another humm titty dum dum!!!
you are also right about this law,
however, disposition means embalming, cremation, body donation, burial at sea etc….
and one of those must take place within 8 days….
this is to stop the spread of diseases from decomposing bodies.
The 8 days gives them time to conduct the autopsy and take and tissue and organ samples for toxicology reports.
There is no time limit on a time that someone has to be buried if they have been embalmed.
one example of this is james brown who wasn't buried for almost 3 months after his death…
he stayed in a gold casket in his estate because his family was fighting over where to bury him…
google it and you will see the articles.
I also am saying that we don't know if the coroner's signature is there…
it is blacked out where the signature goes, so i am just assuming that he did sign it because
the DHS would not have signed and stamped it at the bottom in purple ink as the last step if there was not a signature.
This is still not to convenience you that this isn't a hoax or put any one's theories down…
and i am not saying that this is not a forged copy….
(although if it is forged and someone forged the DHS signature, it would be illegal.)
what i am saying… is if all the info on the dc is not forged….
it is a valid dc that a burial can take place on.
i just want to clear up these misconceptions…
and i highly encourage everyone to do their own research!!
If anyone can research mj's death certificate online and see if you can find a different copy of this…
maybe one where the signature is not blacked out….that would be interesting.
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2:03 pm
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Post edited 7:05 am – July 27, 2009 by Nancy
James Brown has a pic that PROVES that he is dead but Michael hasn't….Michael has not anything that proves that he is really dead so….
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2:16 pm
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Nancy said:
Post edited 2:05 pm – July 26, 2009 by Nancy
James Brown has a pic that PROVES that he is dead but Michael hasn't….Michael has not anything that proves that he is really dead so….
They are probably not going to release a photo of mj dead, if they haven't already.
(this is going on the assumption that he is dead)
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Is it normal that there are two death certificates of MJ circulating on the web ? Two different copies – same info, except the barcode thingie is different and the layout is a bit different too.
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Anna.K said:
Question :
Is it normal that there are two death certificates of MJ circulating on the web ? Two different copies – same info, except the barcode thingie is different and the layout is a bit different too.
hi anna,
can you find me links to the two different DC's?
I would love to see!
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jewell said:
Anna.K said:
Question :
Is it normal that there are two death certificates of MJ circulating on the web ? Two different copies – same info, except the barcode thingie is different and the layout is a bit different too.
hi anna,
can you find me links to the two different DC's?
I would love to see!
Here's the first one :
http://www2.tbo.com/exposure/f…..ficate.jpg
Barcode thingie = 109006163
2nd one I found :
http://poponthepop.com/images/…..72×627.jpg
Barcode thingie = 172000043
The layout differences : for example, “Department of Health Services” is placed “higher up” on the 1st one
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Post edited 10:10 am – July 28, 2009 by Another.Part.Of.Me
Anna.K said:
jewell said:
Anna.K said:
Question :
Is it normal that there are two death certificates of MJ circulating on the web ? Two different copies – same info, except the barcode thingie is different and the layout is a bit different too.
hi anna,
can you find me links to the two different DC's?
I would love to see!
Here's the first one :
http://www2.tbo.com/exposure/f…..ficate.jpg
Barcode thingie = 109006163
2nd one I found :
http://poponthepop.com/images/…..es;627.jpg
Barcode thingie = 172000043
The layout differences : for example, “Department of Health Services” is placed “higher up” on the 1st one
Oh My God you're right. Thanks for posting both links, I'd only ever seen one of the certificates and there are 2 different barcodes – which one is the real one and which the fake, or are they both fake?
Also why does the second link (poponthepop) have the words 'EXTRA EXTRA' on it? Was that one released by a TMZ-like media outlet? Is that normal Jewell?
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