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The most logical theory: He did die

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2:58 pm
July 28, 2009


Reflection

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Post edited 9:07 am – July 29, 2009 by Reflection


I agree that the situation seems to be heating up.

However, I have a few thoughts in support of a hoax death left.


Maybe AEG, Randy Phillips and Dr. Murray really are criminals – maybe not in the way presented by the media – and Michael wanted to expose them. Maybe the best way to do that would be to hoax his death.


Regarding the drug addiction…

Compared to Michael Jackson, Amy Winehouse is a little fish in the pond (no offence to any Amy Winehouse fans). We heard about her drug addiction – whether we wanted to or not – almost every other day. Yet we never heard about MJ's supposed addiction until now. I find that hard to believe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzA67v3hj04

3:14 pm
July 28, 2009


watthhel

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I remain hopeful yet.


Have a nice time here today – good night from here.

God bless you all and hugs for the sad ones.


Tomorrow is another day. Lets wait and see.

“smile though your heart is aching….”

3:16 pm
July 28, 2009


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souza81 said:

Post edited 4:30 am – July 28, 2009 by souza81


I'm at a point now where I'm close to giving up on the movie-theory. IMO that is the only hoax-theory there could be, because I would never believe that he just wanted a 'quiet life'. That's just not MJ.

If you look at it in a different way, let's face it, we don't know anything. Everything we heard and discussed, we heard through the media.


Maybe Mike was on drugs. If you're honest, It wouldn't be that strange if you look at his life and all the trials, pain and pressure he had to deal with. Maybe Dr. Murray did give him propofol and fell asleep, finding Mike dead when he awaked. Maybe he wanted to save his own ass and that is why the 2 women removed those boxes from his clinic.

Maybe that is why he was paid that amount of money, to provide Mike with the dangerous anasthetics, something other doctors wouldn't administre to him, you only need 1 greedy person.

Maybe that is why Liza Minelli said that all hell would break loose if the autopsy rapport would be presented, fans all over the world wouldn't believe MJ was actually a drug addict and many of them would be highly disappointed. That is why Liza is glad we are celebrating him now, because she thinks we wont be celebrating him anymore after we find out the truth.


The 911-caller could be that calm because he already had seen that MJ was dead and the guy that took the call and hang up that quick (not according to protocol) could have been new on the job, or just nervous because he realized that there was a big chance tha call was about MJ.


The ambulance pic could be real. We are told that dr. Klein was changing his face again, that could also explain all the pictures of which we think isn't Mike, but is. He could look darker because of the dark window of the ambulance and he could look younger/fatter than we remember him, because of all the CPS/ tubes/ mouth-to mouth etc. I recall my dad had a blown-up face after he had surgery. Could also be the meds, who knows?

If it's not real, that's the media. Maybe they had an old pic an photoshopped it. It would be just for the money.


We haven't heard from UCLA staff, maybe that's just because they are actually doing what they should do: shut up (unlike the nurse).


We've been told that LAPD screwed up by not sealing the crime scene. That was told to us through media, no one knows if that is really true.


Maybe autopsy and toxic results are being delayed for the reason Liza Minelli is giving, the family is afraid that hell would break loose and there will be the most horrible stories about MJ all over the news, maybe they're just not ready to cope with that.


And about the family saying all different things? It's the Jacksons, they're a really strange family and I don't think they're all on speaking terms. Joe is a cold-hearted ass, we already knew that. LaToya already told untrue stories about her brother in the early 90's, she's just the attention-seeking bitch she has ever been.


So guys, as you can see, I'm losing hope here, I don't think it's a hoax, it's just the combination of The Jacksons, the hollywood-gossip and the die-hard fans that can't believe their Michael would do something like that.


So, maybe there's somebody that can kill the above theory and cheer me up here?


IMHO, logic has got nothing to do with anything.

I cannot tell you what happened, I'd like to know that myself. I just want to know the truth, even if that requires to stretch my imagination very far (no problems here ) or to accept that he's gone.

That he died is a valid theory. 

That he staged his death, for what reasons ever, is another equally valid theory. It just seems more plausible that he died, because faking your death is something “you just don't do”, and we have hardly ever experienced anything like that (Paul McCartney for one, but that is the only one that comes to my mind).

The vast majority of people worldwide have accepted this one, because that is what you experience every day: if someone claims that a person has died, said person is dead. Period.

But: since when is the truth a democratic process ??

3:55 pm
July 28, 2009


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LOL souza souza souza.. did you drink the MJ died kool-aid too? hehehe.


I for one would not stop celebrating MJ if he turned out to have ended life with a drug problem.  I knew he HAD a drug problem in the nineties.  He said so himself on tv.  Morphine is about his struggle.  I don't think anyone who gets addicted to RX drugs is a bad person.  I've known plenty of people who either came very close to getting addicted or were addicted.  It didn't make them lesser people or bad people.


having an RX drug dependency is totally totally different IMO than just taking up cocaine recreationally for the hell of it.  If MJ was the biggest druggie in the history of the world (RX) I wouldn't think any less of him.  And I know most fans wouldn't either.  I think Liza is talking out of her butt. She doesn't know as much as she thinks she does.  And if she does, seriously, shame on her.


Also, let's please not forget he passed that physical.  It is VERY difficult for someone with a drug problem to get insured like that for millions.  Especially by a company like Lloyd's of London.  They don't mess around.  There is no way to pass a 4-5 hour physical with “flying colors” if you're on a bunch of drugs.

Further, Diprivan is not a drug you get addicted to.  And if he was on Demerol that would have created a problem for the insurance.  I really question this whole thing.

3:56 pm
July 28, 2009


BellaFiga

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what are RX drugs?

3:57 pm
July 28, 2009


Anna.K

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BellaFiga said:

what are RX drugs?


Prescription drugs.

“With such confusions, don’t it make you wanna scream ?”

3:58 pm
July 28, 2009


BellaFiga

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oh right.  What does RX stand for then?

3:59 pm
July 28, 2009


mjfan

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souza81 said:

superplay said:

It´s hard for me to think Michael was on heavy drugs, though he had 3 children to take care of.

You can´t be heavy affected and take proper care of children.


Then there is there something else that confuse me. Why in hell hasn´t his closest friends or family step up and help Michael if he where on drugs ? I mean they are guilty for his dead they too, if they didn´t care for him and helped him to get off from eventually drugs ?

Even if he didn´t want help, they could have forced him to get professional help.

I think it´s very strange to not help a family member or a friend when he/she needs it so badly ?

So therefore I think there where no heavy drugs at all…..

Sorry for my very bad english


I don't think you know any people that are heavily on drugs, it's very hard to get through to them, believe me.


What I think is strange in this case, is that we never heard he had this kind of a problem and IMO he never looked like he was high at all. If you look at the Geraldo interview back in 2005 during his trial (I think one of the darkest periods in his life), he is so calm and normal and he doesn't look drugged to me at all, so that's confusing me, where does the drug addiction come from all of a sudden?

For those who has never seen the Geraldo interview, look here:

http://www.youtube.com/results…..n+geraldo+



His attorney Tom Messerau also said on video that during the whole trial for months and months he spent hours a day with michael jackson and he NEVER saw any indication that he was on drugs.  He was always lucid and articulate.

4:02 pm
July 28, 2009


mjfan

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BellaFiga said:

oh right.  What does RX stand for then?


It stand for Prescription.  I have no idea why it's “RX”

4:08 pm
July 28, 2009


BellaFiga

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hm.  I'll have to look it up

4:12 pm
July 28, 2009


Reflection

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BellaFiga said:

oh right.  What does RX stand for then?


The symbol “Rx” meaning “prescription” is a transliteration of a symbol resembling a capital R with a cross on the diagonal (). There are various theories about the origin of this symbol – some note its similarity to the Eye of Horus[3] [4], others to the ancient symbol for Jupiter, both gods whose protection may have been sought in medical contexts. Alternatively, it may be intended as an abbreviation of the Latin “recipe” [5], the imperative form of “recipere”, “to take or take thus”[6], and it is quite possible that more than one of these factors influenced its form. Literally, “Recipe” means simply “Take….” and when a medical practitioner writes a prescription beginning with “Rx”, he or she is completing the command. This was probably originally directed at the pharmacist who needed to take a certain amount of each ingredient to compound the medicine, rather than at the patient who must “take” the medicine, in the sense of consuming it. The word “prescription” can be decomposed into “pre” and “script” and literally means, “to write before” a drug can be prepared. Those within the industry will often call prescriptions simply “scripts”. Another theory exists that the “Rx” may have originally been a “Px”, where the “P” is short for “pre”, and the “x” is short for “script”.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M…..escription

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzA67v3hj04

4:18 pm
July 28, 2009


BellaFiga

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thanks!

4:25 pm
July 28, 2009


Reflection

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You're welcome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzA67v3hj04

7:45 pm
July 28, 2009


lets talk

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A lady just called in to HLN and said when her husband died that they had a house full of police and with tape around the house while they gathered evidence.  A neighbor a mine tried to kill himself, his house was surrounded by tape, the streets were cordoned off,

and their was police tape around the front.  If they do not have the facts or suspicious they usually rush over and contain the scene, just in case, it is something unnatural.

Does this help?


Sorry guy, but Mj said on a YOUTUBE tape that ine day he will just run away and get married and have a normal life.  So who knows.

9:20 pm
July 28, 2009


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Anna.K said:

pumpkin said:

It has been stated in more than 1 article that Michael relied on anaesthetic (propofol) to put him to sleep at night especially after concerts as he was so high he couldn't sleep naturally but whether that's true is anybody's guess – I think he said himself he used to watch donald duck cartoons to make him sleep after concerts but again anyone can say anything and it is a question of what we believe to be the truth.

I don't think this is in any way like Princess Diana whom I believe totally did die in that awful crash.  The situation was different on all levels. There was certainly speculation about if it was murder or an accident, but I don't believe that many thought she was still actually alive and that her death was faked, unlike with Michael.

I do go along with the saviour's complex theory, look at some of his videos such as you are not alone when he is standing arms outstretched on a mountain and even at the memorial they way they had his photo looking like he was on a crucifix.

Someone from Sweden mentioned about being able to force help on people with addictions, and I don't know about the US but the same applies in the UK you can have someone 'sectioned' i.e. force someone to have treatment for mental disorders and addictions.

Although I do realise the person themselves has to also want to give up ultimately, but I never heard either that Michael was a drug addict till he supposedly died.

So back to the thread, don't give up as all the information we have been given is by the media whether dead or alive.


The only “drug” story in Michael Jackson's life that was reported, as far as I know, was the pain medication addiction after reconstructive surgery : he admitted to it on television and sought help ; from what I can gather, he went to rehab or something.


I also rad this as well.  i think I saw it in an interview with Liz Taylor as well.  She went with him to help him through it. Although I think she should have had some treatment for her addiction as well at the same time!!!  Actually I also read that Liz was the one the “recommended” the pain medication and introduced him to Klien……

9:21 pm
July 28, 2009


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Anna.K said:

pumpkin said:

It has been stated in more than 1 article that Michael relied on anaesthetic (propofol) to put him to sleep at night especially after concerts as he was so high he couldn't sleep naturally but whether that's true is anybody's guess – I think he said himself he used to watch donald duck cartoons to make him sleep after concerts but again anyone can say anything and it is a question of what we believe to be the truth.

I don't think this is in any way like Princess Diana whom I believe totally did die in that awful crash.  The situation was different on all levels. There was certainly speculation about if it was murder or an accident, but I don't believe that many thought she was still actually alive and that her death was faked, unlike with Michael.

I do go along with the saviour's complex theory, look at some of his videos such as you are not alone when he is standing arms outstretched on a mountain and even at the memorial they way they had his photo looking like he was on a crucifix.

Someone from Sweden mentioned about being able to force help on people with addictions, and I don't know about the US but the same applies in the UK you can have someone 'sectioned' i.e. force someone to have treatment for mental disorders and addictions.

Although I do realise the person themselves has to also want to give up ultimately, but I never heard either that Michael was a drug addict till he supposedly died.

So back to the thread, don't give up as all the information we have been given is by the media whether dead or alive.


The only “drug” story in Michael Jackson's life that was reported, as far as I know, was the pain medication addiction after reconstructive surgery : he admitted to it on television and sought help ; from what I can gather, he went to rehab or something.


I also rad this as well.  i think I saw it in an interview with Liz Taylor as well.  She went with him to help him through it. Although I think she should have had some treatment for her addiction as well at the same time!!!  Actually I also read that Liz was the one the “recommended” the pain medication and introduced him to Klien……

9:47 pm
July 28, 2009


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VanillaCream said:

He seems to be pretty high in this vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..mHFBk45vhI

But I think he used a painkiller (yeah painkiller can send you on a nice trip, I know that) at 5:17 he says “my mouth hurts” poor Michael - he´s so damn cute like a baby boy with a sore knee.


I don´t understand the fact that these §$%& saw that he wasn´t in a good shape and they did that interview nonetheless AND the &%$§ TV station aired it!


Thank you for posting that.  He is so damn cute!  I miss him so much!


But, to the topic of the thread.  I have believed all along he was dead because of the legal issues involved.  I don't WANT to believe it, because thinking there is some glimmer of hope is what gets me through the day.  I want to tell you that even I, as skeptical as I am, don't think the movie idea is so incredibly far fetched, except that it would really have to wrap up soon or else the movie would be 6 hours long

Assuming I lived until the average age for a woman in my country, age bracket now, health, etc., I do NOT want to go another 40 years without him.  I just don't even know how I can (or how Elvis fans are doing it), so I suppose I will never give up that final piece of me that wants him alive, even if he never comes back.  My fantasies of him being happy and stress free (and LOTS of youtube ) is what will keep me going if he really is gone.

12:39 am
July 29, 2009


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Post edited 5:41 pm – July 29, 2009 by seven7seven


People are making things more complicated than things should be. The more complicated you make it, the harder it will be to keep it up. As I said before: the more people involved.. same thing. The key to make things happen is keep it simple. No difficult movie theories, how entertaining it might be (and the best theory so far too), nothing of that.

In the end it is all a matter of assumption. The way you look at it makes facts true or rubbish, turns truth into lies and vice versa. If you believe Michael is still alive, you point the facts that way and ignore what is out there that proofs you wrong. If you believe he is truly dead, same thing. It's your view point mirror.

True power lies in those who are able to look at things from different angles. In real life, for example, the best managers are the ones who can see all the pro's and contra's of each plan, of each decision. And by seeing that, decide what is best for the situation.
It takes experience and even more: devotion to be able to do that. But in most cases people just see what they want to see, blocking everything else out. Their truth is the only truth, finding facts and stories to back that up, and everything else is false, planted, gossip and so on.

So the key here is: What do you believe? Or better: what do you want to believe?

Sure: everything we are being told points to the fact he really died on June 25th.  And most probably, he did, how ever bad it makes everyone feel.

But how true it may be, that is not what we are here for! We are here for that little spark of hope. The slightest possibility that maybe he did stage his death.  That he is still out there. That is why everyone is here and keeps coming back, too.

Not because we don’t want to face the truth. But because we want him to live. And we don’t except all the dirt that the media and everyone keeps telling about him. All the lousy facts that are being told on a daily basis. As someone already replied: he will live forever, in our hearts. But I guess that is not enough.

So there you go: you wanted a little bit of hope, well, here we are. We are the ones that keep him alive. That question all the facts presented, because no one else does. And what we find is that there are a lot of questions to ask. Things that just don't add up, that are weird, and so on. However I doubt we will ever get any answers, I'm glad the questions are being asked. Because these are our facts, our reason for doubt. And if you want: our proof of a possible hoax.

My advice? Reconsider all the facts, create a new theory and keep it simple.

What is wrong with a simple theory like this (maybe someone can work it out some more, adding in all the facts we have, I’m not that good in writing stories!):

He did not want a comeback, because he never left. He just wanted a final blow, to show the world that there is no doubt who the best (pop)artist is ever lived? Or maybe he did need the money? So he would make one more album, do one more big show. The record is made, as told by Will.i.am. The shows announced.

But his promoter, his financer AEG got greedy. Forced him into 50 shows, way over his head, something he never wanted, something he knew he couldn't do. Maybe a contract forced him doing the shows, and would bankrupt him if he didn't. That would not only hurt him, but it would also hurt his children, something I'm sure he never ever wanted to happen.
So he had a choice: bankruptcy or doing the shows. Or find a way out, that would leave his children save and financially secure for the rest of their lives and keep his greedy promoter happy as well (insurance money, stock in record sales, promotion, even the coincidental HD recording of the rehearsal, to name a few money makers). How is death for an answer?

Maybe it was thought of a long time ago, maybe the plans were new. To stage someone’s death, you don't need many people. You need a way to die, a doctor to confirm it, someone with power to overrule even the ambulance personal, someone inside the hospital to finish the job and pronounce him dead and a coroner to keep up the story, that is it. And if questions asked, you need someone to take the fall for you. Who else than the same doctor you already involved in your play?

It is quite easy to stage a death. People see what they want to see. You bring MJ in a coma, fake some CPR on the bed when personal is looking, have them make the call but ensure not to mention any details, since you don't want special treatment, too many paps and for all too many witnesses.
When ambu arrives you make sure the doctor has power to overrule the EPT's. With a weak pulse – as said – you cannot use a defibrillator. You have MJ's body secures and transported to the hospital. There the doctor involved takes care of the final piece and announces him dead after two hours. Claiming they have worked really hard but without success. Publicly the “dead” body is transported to the coroner, and he tells the world he has done so much research the body is too damaged for an open casket.

You know, when a celeb dies like this, questions will be asked. But you thought of that. You plant some evidence of drug abuse in your house, remove some stuff at the same time. Do the same at the doctors place and office. Mess things up just enough, so little proof is found, the doctor will be charged but never found guilty of manslaughter because evidence is tampered with or is insufficient for a conviction. You pay him enough for him to keep his mouth shut – and maybe he will because he is indeed the biological father of one of the children, as was claimed on TMZ not long ago.

And there it is. A death perfectly staged with just three people involved. AEG would not be involved, there is no need to. And the family knows, but they are family and it is in their best interest to keep their mouth shut, which we know they aren't very good at.

4:41 am
July 29, 2009


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Reflection said:

Post edited 4:07 pm – July 28, 2009 by Reflection


I agree that the situation seems to be heating up.

However, I have a few thoughts in support of a hoax death left.


Maybe AEG, Randy Phillips and Dr. Murray really are criminals – maybe not in the way presented by the media – and Michael wanted to expose them. Maybe the best way to do that would be to hoax his death.


Regarding the drug addiction…

Compared to Michael Jackson, Amy Winehouse is a little fish in the pond (no offence to any Amy Winehouse fans). We heard about her drug addiction – whether we wanted to or not – almost every other day. Yet we never heard about MJ's supposed addiction until now. I find that hard to believe.


I have the same thoughts, and I'm going crazy by them coz they conflict every hope I have in this hoax!


what if, it's really true Michael took such substances? either cnn and other credible news outlets are really lazy and just getting al their sources from tmz (whom we all know is credible to a certain degree), or the sources quoted in tmz are really the sources that knows this matter, which means this matter of Michael taking substances is real.

I've been thinking bout him passing the medical test earlier this month and it's plausible and possible since the test is conducted by AEG that they passed him a clean bill of health intentionally even though he was not medically 100% fit. knowing his dependency on such substances the case, they thus insured him on the cause of drugs (or something like that can't remember what the proper term is). maybe latoya's actualy right in saying that people were out to kill him…

but then again if he were really so dependant on these drugs (I don't think anyone can function as a normal human being with daily doses of propofol and he was still looking a-okay), there would've been reports about it earlier on too right?


please someone clear this up for me, I wanna keep this doubtless faith he's still alive

4:57 am
July 29, 2009


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dont lose hope heres a litle something to keep you goin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..vcGFiqxnOY

5:02 am
July 29, 2009


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I think MJ was examined by the doctor appointed by the insurance company. AEG had nothing to do with it – unless Lloyds are stupid

Therefore… he really was healthy at the time.

5:10 am
July 29, 2009


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i believe he´s still alive until they show us some proof….maybe a photo of the autopsy..i think i will really cry then..but it´s after all this trouble the only way to convince me !!!


5:14 am
July 29, 2009


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shell12 said:


oh boy here we go again with this media shit.All of the media can't be wrong,just a thought.


Get a life – all you have done is to throw a negative comment to someone who has previously (and still does) disagree with you.

6:14 am
July 29, 2009


thelostchildren

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ladylee1979 said:

dont lose hope heres a litle something to keep you goin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..vcGFiqxnOY


aw that's the sweetest (X will never tire from watching it thanks much (X

8:37 am
July 29, 2009


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thelostchildren said:

Reflection said:

Post edited 4:07 pm – July 28, 2009 by Reflection


I agree that the situation seems to be heating up.

However, I have a few thoughts in support of a hoax death left.


Maybe AEG, Randy Phillips and Dr. Murray really are criminals – maybe not in the way presented by the media – and Michael wanted to expose them. Maybe the best way to do that would be to hoax his death.


Regarding the drug addiction…

Compared to Michael Jackson, Amy Winehouse is a little fish in the pond (no offence to any Amy Winehouse fans). We heard about her drug addiction – whether we wanted to or not – almost every other day. Yet we never heard about MJ's supposed addiction until now. I find that hard to believe.


I have the same thoughts, and I'm going crazy by them coz they conflict every hope I have in this hoax!


what if, it's really true Michael took such substances? either cnn and other credible news outlets are really lazy and just getting al their sources from tmz (whom we all know is credible to a certain degree), or the sources quoted in tmz are really the sources that knows this matter, which means this matter of Michael taking substances is real.

I've been thinking bout him passing the medical test earlier this month and it's plausible and possible since the test is conducted by AEG that they passed him a clean bill of health intentionally even though he was not medically 100% fit. knowing his dependency on such substances the case, they thus insured him on the cause of drugs (or something like that can't remember what the proper term is). maybe latoya's actualy right in saying that people were out to kill him…

but then again if he were really so dependant on these drugs (I don't think anyone can function as a normal human being with daily doses of propofol and he was still looking a-okay), there would've been reports about it earlier on too right?


please someone clear this up for me, I wanna keep this doubtless faith he's still alive


NO, AEG did not conduct the physical.  An Independent doctor from Lloyd's of London, the insurer did it.

11:14 am
July 29, 2009


Janefox53

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         hi fans,

        my friend has said the same thing, he did die, but me, not so sure, feelins more alive than not.  She

         said I need to step back take a breath, then recoop, well I say no way. Her feelins are this site is montoring us

         to make a reasonable movie for the life of MJ, that why we are being feed some of this stuff.  I told her that

         a lot of the stuff we talk about on here, too many other people has noticed also, even her, but she is a

        none believer anyway.  I can only say, I still have some hope as long as nothing is adding up the way

        it should in a case like this.  If you think about it, it seems like it's already a movie and we'er living in it.

11:15 am
July 29, 2009


Janefox53

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         hi fans,

        my friend has said the same thing, he did die, but me, not so sure, feelins more alive than not.  She

         said I need to step back take a breath, then recoop, well I say no way. Her feelins are this site is montoring us

         to make a reasonable movie for the life of MJ, that why we are being feed some of this stuff.  I told her that

         a lot of the stuff we talk about on here, too many other people has noticed also, even her, but she is a

        none believer anyway.  I can only say, I still have some hope as long as nothing is adding up the way

        it should in a case like this.  If you think about it, it seems like it's already a movie and we'er living in it.

12:32 am
July 30, 2009


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wow, you killed your own movie theory.

I still have my hopes!

“Beat me, hate me You can never break me – MJ “

7:12 pm
July 31, 2009


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Post edited 12:13 pm – August 1, 2009 by PKath98


The movie theory is a bit of extreme; the motives are correct but the theory is. Digging that deep into things just makes for a huge let down.


I totally agree with:

He did not want a comeback, because he never left. He just wanted a final blow, to show the world that there is no doubt who the best (pop)artist is ever lived? Or maybe he did need the money? So he would make one more album, do one more big show. The record is made, as told by Will.i.am. The shows announced.

But his promoter, his financer AEG got greedy. Forced him into 50 shows, way over his head, something he never wanted, something he knew he couldn't do. Maybe a contract forced him doing the shows, and would bankrupt him if he didn't. That would not only hurt him, but it would also hurt his children, something I'm sure he never ever wanted to happen.
So he had a choice: bankruptcy or doing the shows. Or find a way out, that would leave his children save and financially secure for the rest of their lives and keep his greedy promoter happy as well (insurance money, stock in record sales, promotion, even the coincidental HD recording of the rehearsal, to name a few money makers). How is death for an answer?

Maybe it was thought of a long time ago, maybe the plans were new. To stage someone’s death, you don't need many people. You need a way to die, a doctor to confirm it, someone with power to overrule even the ambulance personal, someone inside the hospital to finish the job and pronounce him dead and a coroner to keep up the story, that is it. And if questions asked, you need someone to take the fall for you. Who else than the same doctor you already involved in your play?

It is quite easy to stage a death. People see what they want to see. You bring MJ in a coma, fake some CPR on the bed when personal is looking, have them make the call but ensure not to mention any details, since you don't want special treatment, too many paps and for all too many witnesses.
When ambu arrives you make sure the doctor has power to overrule the EPT's. With a weak pulse – as said – you cannot use a defibrillator. You have MJ's body secures and transported to the hospital. There the doctor involved takes care of the final piece and announces him dead after two hours. Claiming they have worked really hard but without success. Publicly the “dead” body is transported to the coroner, and he tells the world he has done so much research the body is too damaged for an open casket.

You know, when a celeb dies like this, questions will be asked. But you thought of that. You plant some evidence of drug abuse in your house, remove some stuff at the same time. Do the same at the doctors place and office. Mess things up just enough, so little proof is found, the doctor will be charged but never found guilty of manslaughter because evidence is tampered with or is insufficient for a conviction. You pay him enough for him to keep his mouth shut – and maybe he will because he is indeed the biological father of one of the children, as was claimed on TMZ not long ago.


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PKath98 said:

Post edited 12:13 pm – August 1, 2009 by PKath98


The movie theory is a bit of extreme; the motives are correct but the theory is. Digging that deep into things just makes for a huge let down.


I totally agree with:

He did not want a comeback, because he never left. He just wanted a final blow, to show the world that there is no doubt who the best (pop)artist is ever lived? Or maybe he did need the money? So he would make one more album, do one more big show. The record is made, as told by Will.i.am. The shows announced.

But his promoter, his financer AEG got greedy. Forced him into 50 shows, way over his head, something he never wanted, something he knew he couldn't do. Maybe a contract forced him doing the shows, and would bankrupt him if he didn't. That would not only hurt him, but it would also hurt his children, something I'm sure he never ever wanted to happen.
So he had a choice: bankruptcy or doing the shows. Or find a way out, that would leave his children save and financially secure for the rest of their lives and keep his greedy promoter happy as well (insurance money, stock in record sales, promotion, even the coincidental HD recording of the rehearsal, to name a few money makers). How is death for an answer?

Maybe it was thought of a long time ago, maybe the plans were new. To stage someone’s death, you don't need many people. You need a way to die, a doctor to confirm it, someone with power to overrule even the ambulance personal, someone inside the hospital to finish the job and pronounce him dead and a coroner to keep up the story, that is it. And if questions asked, you need someone to take the fall for you. Who else than the same doctor you already involved in your play?

It is quite easy to stage a death. People see what they want to see. You bring MJ in a coma, fake some CPR on the bed when personal is looking, have them make the call but ensure not to mention any details, since you don't want special treatment, too many paps and for all too many witnesses.
When ambu arrives you make sure the doctor has power to overrule the EPT's. With a weak pulse – as said – you cannot use a defibrillator. You have MJ's body secures and transported to the hospital. There the doctor involved takes care of the final piece and announces him dead after two hours. Claiming they have worked really hard but without success. Publicly the “dead” body is transported to the coroner, and he tells the world he has done so much research the body is too damaged for an open casket.

You know, when a celeb dies like this, questions will be asked. But you thought of that. You plant some evidence of drug abuse in your house, remove some stuff at the same time. Do the same at the doctors place and office. Mess things up just enough, so little proof is found, the doctor will be charged but never found guilty of manslaughter because evidence is tampered with or is insufficient for a conviction. You pay him enough for him to keep his mouth shut – and maybe he will because he is indeed the biological father of one of the children, as was claimed on TMZ not long ago.



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