Michael Jackson Hoax Death

Is the King of Pop really dead?

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12:50 pm
July 29, 2009


Jori

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Anna.K said:

Post edited 5:53 am – July 27, 2009 by Anna.K


I am indeed a bit worried about the emotional state of some posters…. 

So, right now, Michael Jackson has passed away. I have already “mourned” him – I did cry when I heard the news, reflected and rediscovered his work, went to a tribute show where I live with my best friend (whom I met over a Michael Jackson song lol !).
Really, he's a musical legend and a great humanitarian – and his music will never die.

I understand the way he transcended generations, time and the rational to really get through people's hearts.

However, we did not know him personally – we love him but on a “true fan” level, which does not mean it's a lesser kind of love, but it sure is a different one than the love you have and give to your own friends and family. We were not his family, his lovers, or even his true friends.

So, please, don't throw your life away on this – I want to believe that Michael Jackson would want people to live on.
 


Here, here!

Mistake not kindness for weakness.

1:19 pm
July 29, 2009


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souza81 said:

Hi guys,


As much as I want Michael to be still alive, I really was stunned by the reaction to the no hoax!! post. Let's not forget that he might really be dead. A lot of people will be enormously disappointed when it turns out that MJ really died. To me he is dead until proven not. I have not posted my movie-theory just for fun, I really think it could be the truth, but I'm not taking it for the real truth until I know for sure.

Please don't take the hoax for the absolute truth, but just hope it is the truth, so it will be less of a shock when it turns out to be not a hoax. I'm really freaked out by the reactions, please comfort me and tell me you're not all going to jump off a bridge if he's really dead….


I think thats a good way of looking at it and I'm coming around to it myself. The last couple days I've really been trying to accept that he COULD be really dead.  There's the possibility that he's alive, but I think its just a possibility. His death is more probable. But I'm still hoping and checking this site everyday, watching the news closely for any obvious bs.

Hey, did anyone see the CNN spot where Sanjay Gupta borrowed an actual surgery patient to show what diprivan actually does? THis mans was awake on the table being prepped for surgery, they set the drip, told him it would burn and in 10 seconds he was out. Within seconds he stopped breathing and a tube was inserted to breath for him. God, I just cant imagine Michael would use something like this. He wasn't stupid! Its just so hard to believe that ANYONE would allow this or do this. And I cant beleive that Michael would allow his kids to see all these IV poles and oxygen tanks and other accoutrements. HIs kids were always in his bedroom, would he really have all this stuff in full view of his children.

If he is dead and DIprivan was the casue we have to accept that our MJ was in seriously troubled…

1:39 pm
July 29, 2009


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LOL.  I didn't become a BIG MJ fan until after he died and I did a lot of research.  I'd been a casual fan before, I just didn't understand my reaction to his death.  I cried at the memorial. I did the mourning thing.  I accepted AT THAT TIME that he was dead.  Then later I've found all these weird things that don't add up.  I think it would be great if he was alive because I missed out on being able to be a part of michaelmania the first time and it would be great to be a big fan WITH him alive.  Instead of after he's dead.


I'm honestly having a hard time understanding why fans are SO distraught  by the physical death of someone most of them never personally met.  This is no offense to anyone intended.  Physical death IMO is not the same thing as nonexistence.  What difference does it make to YOU if MJ is alive on the spiritual plane, or alive in Romania or Spain or something if you probably wouldn't physically meet or talk to him anyway?  His existence is still existence.


Maybe you'll miss the music, but we'll always have the music, and with all the music in the vault we're getting MORE music.  There were only so many years MJ was going to be able to dance like that, so live performances really were coming to an end.  He wanted to move behind the camera and direct.


Here here! I'm glad that someone out there is like me. I'm 40 and when I was 10-16 I was a big MJ fan. I had a journal with a five year plan to meet and marry him! But I got older and moved away from being a manic fan to a casual fan. When he died I didnt even have any of his music anymore since I hadnt replaced the LPS with CDs. Like every other dunce I rushed out to buy what was sold out.

I was very surpirsed at how hard I took his death, and initially I did accept it as a death. What I've come up with is this; I feel Michaels regret in the loss of his childhood. I think it had a profound effect on him as an adult as he was never really able to get over it. What I hope he realised is that in  its place he gave millions of people my age a glorious childhood, as well as people of every age. 

Thats why it hurt so much. So so many of my genuine and loving memories of childhood were set to his music. From a little Jackson fiver to Thriller. That first concert, that first crush,  that first poster of a hot guy, my mom rocking me in her arms to “rock with you', imitating the Jackson 5 in Gong Show remakes in the living room. For such a giving soul who only wanted to share the best of himself with everyone, I hope that makes the loss of is own childhood a little easier to bear.

10:39 pm
July 29, 2009


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Dont Say That I'm In Denyal i Know

But Your Kinda Right though

Yum =) you healed the world michael.

10:55 pm
July 29, 2009


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Jori said:

Anna.K said:

Post edited 5:53 am – July 27, 2009 by Anna.K


I am indeed a bit worried about the emotional state of some posters…. 

So, right now, Michael Jackson has passed away. I have already “mourned” him – I did cry when I heard the news, reflected and rediscovered his work, went to a tribute show where I live with my best friend (whom I met over a Michael Jackson song lol !).
Really, he's a musical legend and a great humanitarian – and his music will never die.

I understand the way he transcended generations, time and the rational to really get through people's hearts.

However, we did not know him personally – we love him but on a “true fan” level, which does not mean it's a lesser kind of love, but it sure is a different one than the love you have and give to your own friends and family. We were not his family, his lovers, or even his true friends.

So, please, don't throw your life away on this – I want to believe that Michael Jackson would want people to live on.
 


Here, here!


Amen … I agree with you %100 percent….

“Michael … I understand … I am sad I never got to talk to you … like a normal person.” *Sweet Sweet Earth Angel A.K.A. Michael*

12:45 am
August 2, 2009


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Pumpkin, Listen to me. I don't know you and you don't know me. I don't know what age you are but I can bet that I'm older than you are. To me Michael was more that just good looking, sexy, And each time he spoke I would swear I could see his Angel wings flapping. This may not be the right place to tell a story but I'll just tell a little piece. Back in 1969 I was 7 years old. I was sexually physically and emotionally abused daily. I had no friends and no one to turn to except for the pictures of Michael that hung on my wall. Each time I went through my trauma, I would lock myself in my room and sit in my hiding place and talk to little Michael that hung on my wall. And at 7 years old I could swear that I heard him talking back telling me to hold on and things would get better so I held on. Even as a little kid, Looking in his eyes were like being in the presence of an Angel. My love for Michael go way back in the day. When I heard the news that he died, So many tears fell from my eyes that I thought I would drown. If Michael is really gone ( in the pit of my stomach, I believe he's not dead) He'll always be right here in my heart and my love for him will never die. If this doesn't turn out the way we're hoping and believing it would, we have to be strong and know that our Michael loved us ( His fans) and would want us to live! and spread as much love and joy to others as we can because that is what he did.

1:25 pm
August 2, 2009


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only jsut recently have i been visiting the forum and i never read the no hoax post and i could not find it in the search. can anyone direct me to it? thanks

Im Bad shamone

4:40 pm
August 2, 2009


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FoundMe said:

I have been following this site for a few weeks now and would like to put forth this idea: (if the following has already been put forth by another poster, please accept my apologies)

 

 Referring back to #437 (the numbers I have quoted are under “Do you believe?” heading at the top of the page)) who suggested we go view this link:

(for those who care)http://www.reidopop.com/mjbeat…..php?t=2383

 

And coupled with this link from #449:

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/2009/0…..-21554805/

  

Now, could it be possible, since  E’ Casanova is announcing the end of his career due to a life threatening illness, as he states in the farewell poem (?), that he could have been at MJs house in his final months, because they were friends (as far as I know).  That’s why all the oxygen tanks were found, plus IV drip, medication, etc. Also, this may be why this Dr. Murray was brought in???  As far as I can see (as per the link in # 449), no one was allowed upstairs in MJs house except MJ, his children and the DR. 

Then maybe E’Casanova dies sooner than expected (this is all speculation on my part) so the hoax plan goes ahead with the imposter posing as MJ???  Since there has been NO pictures of the real MJ (I believe this site has already established the ambulance picture as fake or an earlier photo of Michael about 1995??) since all this started, it would be easy to replace the real Michael with the imposter Michael. 

As to the DNA that may be taken from the fake Micheal posing as real Michael, it wouldn’t have to match with the childrens’ as there has been lots of speculation as to whether Michael is the real father or not.  They would just put it down to “See I told you Michael wasn’t the real father.” 

I hope you are following me so far.

Then while all this confusion is happening, the real Michael goes ahead with the rest of his plan to go into hiding??

Check out Casanova’s myspace:  http://www.myspace.com/ecasanovafansite

He is the closest look a like to Michael I have seen.  More so than Navi.

 Let me know what you all think


Interesting idea there… did he pass away?  Went to myspace and found this on his blog.  He basically said it all and to add from myself…if Michael disappeared, can fully understand why and is Michael alive to tell it all?

MICHAEL JACKSON***FACTS BEHIND THE HATE

What do you think of when you hear the name, Michael Jackson? Wacko? Criminal? Great Entertainer? Businessman? Whatever you think of MJ, throw all your thoughts out of the window and let's examine some facts.

For years the media has labeled him “Wacko Jacko.” What happened to MJ? Wasn't he the biggest thing in music at one point? When did he go crazy?

All anyone has to do is look when Michael started being portrayed as “Crazy.” It wasn't during the “Thriller” years. It's cool being a song and dance man. That's what they want. DON'T DARE BECOME A THINKING BUSINESSMAN. DON'T DARE BUY THE BEATLES CATALOG. DON'T DARE MARRY ELVIS' DAUGHTER. DON'T DARE BEAT THE RECORD INDUSTRY AT THEIR OWN GAME. Michael started being labeled crazy when he began making business moves that no one had been successful at doing.

Michael took two cultural icons and shattered them to pieces. All our lives, we've been bombarded with 2 facts. The Beatles were the greatest group of all time and Elvis was the King of Rock and Roll. Michael bought the Beatles and married the King's daughter. (if that ain't literally sticking it to the man) If I wasn't a cynic, I'd say Michael did the Lisa Marie thing just to stick it to the people who consider Elvis the King.

The Beatles were great, but they weren't great enough to maintain publishing rights over their own songs.

Elvis was great, but he didn't write his songs. His manager, Col Tom Parker, was the mastermind behind Elvis … keeping him drugged with fresh subscription pills and doing all the paperwork.

Michael could do no wrong as an entertainer. “Off the Wall,” first solo artist with 4 top ten singles. “Thriller,” the biggest selling album of all time, with a then record 7 top ten singles. “Bad,” the first album to spawn 5 number one songs (even Thriller only had 2 number one songs). All this is cool. But that is all you better do. SING AND DANCE. Michael wanted to be greater. He bought the legendary Sly and the Family Stone catalog and no one really cared. When he bought the Beatles, people noticed. The Sony merger took the cake. Sony, in their eagerness to have a part of the Beatles catalog, agreed to a 50/50 merger with Jackson, thus forming Sony/ATV music publishing. Now, Michael co-owns half of the entire publishing of all of Sony artists. Check out the complete lists of songs at sonyatv.com. A sampling of the songs he owns the publishing rights to are over 900 country songs by artists such as Tammy Wynette, Kenny Rogers, Alabama. All Babyface written songs. Latin songs by Selena and Enrique Iglesias. Roberta Flack songs, Mariah Carey songs, Destiny's Child's songs. 2pac, Biggie and Fleetwood Mac songs. In essence over 100,000 songs. “What is this man doing?” None of the greats did this. Not Bono, Springsteen, Sinatra. “Who does he think he is? Get whatever you can on him.”

To “get” someone, you have to attack what they love the most. I'll say no more on that.

The only man who even approaches MJ in taking on the industry is Prince and to a lesser extent, George Michael. They went after poor George Michael, publicly outing the man as a homosexual. Prince fought hard and made his point, but nevertheless still had to resort to using a major company to distribute his materials. There is nothing wrong with that. Prince would get the lion's share, but the result were years of being labeled crazy and difficult.

The greatest moment for them was the Sneddon press conference. “We got him.” Never was such glee so evident. Who cares if we have evidence?

Michael was acquitted, did not celebrate, went home and left the USA. Best move ever. Now what is there left for the haters to do? He's gone. “Gone, what do you mean he moved to Bahrain? Well, how the hell can we get him if he's not here? Quick, get that columnist to write a series of articles on how MJ's teetering on the brink of destruction. Oh we did that? Well, what can we do?”

On the outer surface, it appears Michael is not doing anything to make money. Don't even count the weekly sales of his CDs. 15,000 CDs a week is nothing for Michael. The Sony/ATV catalog is money for Michael Jackson every time he breathes. Serious money. The fact that no one reports on the actual amount is proof of that. They would rather you believe he is broke than tell you the truth. Neverland is still owned by MJ. The family home in Encino is still owned by MJ. Michael still owns the Beatles songs through the merger with Sony as well as full ownership of his own songs. But, hey, that's our little secret.

Michael Jackson is literally walking in the shoes that no Black person has ever walked in before. If he ever writes an autobiography, it will be one of the most interesting ever. A Black man with no real formal education becomes the most powerful man in the industry, DESPITE hatred, racism, enemies in his own camps and a media willing to be bought to the highest bidder.

If Sony had any sense, right now they should offer to continue the partnership. That's the only way they will make future money off of Michael's catalogue. Tommy Mattola did not lose his job with Sony because he was a bad label head. It was a casualty of war. MJ exposed him and Sony had to cut their losses. Companies do it all the time. Notice no one at Sony nor did Matolla himself ever sue MJ for slander. Michael always was loyal to his bosses at Epic/Sony. Back at the 1984 Grammys, he even brought then label head Walter Yetnikoff on stage with him at one point. He's always thanked Dave Glew, Mattola and others at Sony in his acceptance speeches.

Sony can still do right by Michael, but it may be too late. However, they still should make a goodwill gesture, but how many times do businesses do that? If I were them, I'd still want MJ as an ally, not as an enemy. It is/was a mutally profitable merger.

I'd be scared as hell if I was an enemy of MJ while he is with the multi-billionaires overseas. Believe me, they aren't just over there discussing designer clothing. A conglomerate is in the making.

One last note, these facts that I write here should not be the only times you hear this, but the sad fact is it probably is. I was worried that Michael would go down because of the uncertainty of the jury. That's playing unfair. If I'm presenting these facts here at EURweb, YOU CAN BELIEVE THE MEDIA KNOWS IT ALREADY AS WELL. They aren't salivating over everything MJ related just because he made “Thriller.” They know what's up. Think about it. That's why I laugh when I see shows like BET's “The Ultimate Hustler.” We all know who that is. (How can Damon Dash know who the ultimate hustler is anyway? He lost Roc-a-fella to Jay-Z)

In the end, Michael won't be known for being an alleged child molester. He won't be known for “Thriller.” He will be known as the man that fought the record industry and won and lived to tell the tale. That is a book worth buying.


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