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I asked for a vision of how Michael wants people to picture him. This is how he wanted to be and how he wanted us to view him. We should really consider this.

Ordinariness

This figure walking in nature shows us that beauty can be found in the simple, ordinary things of life. We so easily take this beautiful world we live in for granted. Cleaning the house, tending the garden, cooking a meal–the most mundane tasks take on a sacred quality when they are performed with your total involvement, with love, and for their own sake, without thought of recognition or reward. You are facing a time now when this easy, natural and utterly ordinary approach to the situations you encounter will bring far better results than any attempt on your part to be brilliant, clever, or otherwise extra-ordinary. Forget all about making headlines by inventing the latest widget, or dazzling your friends and colleagues with your unique star quality. The special gift you have to offer now is presented best by just taking things easily and simply, one step at a time.

Empathy

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Empathy said:

Savannah said:

monalisa ~ I just wanted to say that your painting is just beautiful…I don't even have the words to describe it. I am POSITIVE that Michael put that somewhere special so he could see it every day. You are VERY talented. WOW is all I can say. If you ever ever have the time to post more pictures, I would LOVE to see more of your creations. I keep scrolling up to look at it again (lol). You never know, there are lots of pictures of Neverland on the internet…you just might see your painting in one of them one day…wouldn't that be cool.


Savannah, I have to agree with you I think that picture should be on every page here, its absolutely beautiful but so poignant our Mona Lisa is a true artist I bet Michael absolutely loved that picture. What a good idea to see if it could be spotted on the internet on Neverland pictures. If anyone sees it I do hope they post it, what a lovely tribute that would be for Mona Lisa.  Fingers crossed x


My fingers are crossed too  xxxx  You have a great gift also empathy. I have read your whole thread, and I have really enjoyed it. I think it is so neat how God gives everyone a certain “gift”. I also have a gift…kind of like yours…but I don't use cards. It's a spiritual gift, so even though I don't understand Tarot cards, I do understand. I wouldn't be too suprised if alot of our members on here have special gifts. I have heard so many people say that they don't know why they believe MJ is still alive…they just have a feeling they can't describe. I have seen that over and over again on here. Look what happened…we all somehow found our way to this site searching for the same thing. It took me a long time to realize that I had a gift, but I also kind of always knew… Ok, I have to go take a look at that beautiful picture again.

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Savannah said:

Empathy said:

Savannah said:

monalisa ~ I just wanted to say that your painting is just beautiful…I don't even have the words to describe it. I am POSITIVE that Michael put that somewhere special so he could see it every day. You are VERY talented. WOW is all I can say. If you ever ever have the time to post more pictures, I would LOVE to see more of your creations. I keep scrolling up to look at it again (lol). You never know, there are lots of pictures of Neverland on the internet…you just might see your painting in one of them one day…wouldn't that be cool.


Savannah, I have to agree with you I think that picture should be on every page here, its absolutely beautiful but so poignant our Mona Lisa is a true artist I bet Michael absolutely loved that picture. What a good idea to see if it could be spotted on the internet on Neverland pictures. If anyone sees it I do hope they post it, what a lovely tribute that would be for Mona Lisa.  Fingers crossed x


My fingers are crossed too  xxxx  You have a great gift also empathy. I have read your whole thread, and I have really enjoyed it. I think it is so neat how God gives everyone a certain “gift”. I also have a gift…kind of like yours…but I don't use cards. It's a spiritual gift, so even though I don't understand Tarot cards, I do understand. I wouldn't be too suprised if alot of our members on here have special gifts. I have heard so many people say that they don't know why they believe MJ is still alive…they just have a feeling they can't describe. I have seen that over and over again on here. Look what happened…we all somehow found our way to this site searching for the same thing. It took me a long time to realize that I had a gift, but I also kind of always knew… Ok, I have to go take a look at that beautiful picture again.


I agree, Savannah — have you checked this thread out?  It's a large testimony to your statement:

http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxd…..mp;ret=all

Oh, and I don't have a “gift”.  I really don't.  Except for pissing people off, I guess. I feel things more than most people — especially when it comes to children.  If I hear something on the news that has happened to a child, it will keep me up all night long, I can't focus on work, and I am literally physically ill for days with grief.  But I don't think that's a gift, it seems more like a curse.

Before you post, ask yourself – WWMJD? In our darkest hour, in my deepest despair – Will you still care? Will you be there? In my trials, and my tribulations? Through our doubts and frustrations?

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Empathy, I think you joining has been one of the greatest things yet. I knew that while looking at this site, we could ponder the facts all we wanted to but we really had to look inside and pay attention to what we were feeling. Im quite spiritual myself and I knew if we wanted to know more then what we were being told then turning to spirituality would help. I was also wondering whether I should join this site or not but when I saw how many people were kind and want to carry on MJ's legacy and just wanted peace for him and all, I felt it would be nice to join. I feel we are all one and I love it God bless you Empathy who has brought a special gift to us all.

-Peace & love


4:46 am
August 3, 2009


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Empathy said:

Savannah said:

monalisa ~ I just wanted to say that your painting is just beautiful…I don't even have the words to describe it. I am POSITIVE that Michael put that somewhere special so he could see it every day. You are VERY talented. WOW is all I can say. If you ever ever have the time to post more pictures, I would LOVE to see more of your creations. I keep scrolling up to look at it again (lol). You never know, there are lots of pictures of Neverland on the internet…you just might see your painting in one of them one day…wouldn't that be cool.


Savannah, I have to agree with you I think that picture should be on every page here, its absolutely beautiful but so poignant our Mona Lisa is a true artist I bet Michael absolutely loved that picture. What a good idea to see if it could be spotted on the internet on Neverland pictures. If anyone sees it I do hope they post it, what a lovely tribute that would be for Mona Lisa.  Fingers crossed x


Thank you both SO much for your thoughtful words on my little picture! It would be so nice to see it somewhere in a photo at Neverland! It was a while ago, though, in '93. My friend, who was a security guard there,  did me the gracious favor of delivering it to Michael for me. The funny thing was, she told me that she took it to work with her and set it down on a counter in the security guards' office, (it was in a little white box that it fit in perfectly) and while she was talking to someone, Michael walked in, looked in the box, and then picked it up and left with it, not asking who it was for or where it came from, lol. The following day, she told one of the maids about the picture, and the maid told her she had just seen it on his night table next to his bed!. But I was never sure if this really happened or if she made up a nice story so I would be happy. I do know she took it there, so I like to believe it happened as she said it did. Especially after what Empathy told me

It's just a silly little picture, kind of like a children's book illustration, but I appreciate your kind words, and am honored that you like it. I will post some more pictures I have done, as soon as I can. There was one more painting I had given my friend to give to Michael, but I never knew what happened with it because I lost touch with her soon after. She was no longer working for him due to the whole upheaval with the false accusations made against him, and  a lot of staff was let go – long story but anyways I'll look for that picture to post here too.

Sorry I'm off topic here, I am going to go read the rest of the thread and see what is new since I just got home from work!

Blessings to you all,

Mona Lisa

P.S. I had written a little note on the back of the picture to Michael with my name at the end, so he would have known then that it was indeed made just for him

‘Te quiero siempre mi amor … sé que un día volverás’

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August 3, 2009


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Empathy,

Thanks for helping us to reign in and corral the emotion and gut-wrenching grief that surrounds this situation. Just as the '9' card intimates, our board here was 'ripe' for your intervention.

Ever,

Jori

Mistake not kindness for weakness.

6:37 am
August 3, 2009


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Jori said:

Empathy,

Thanks for helping us to reign in and corral the emotion and gut-wrenching grief that surrounds this situation. Just as the '9' card intimates, our board here was 'ripe' for your intervention.

Ever,

Jori


Wow, thanks Jori, just perfect the way you worded that; my sentiments exactly, wish I was as good with words as you & some others on here!


‘Te quiero siempre mi amor … sé que un día volverás’

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Thank you Empathy.  So much. I remember him as far back as my childhood but I also see him as a person like I do with any celebrity.  I wouldn't ever mob them or stare. They are people.  Seriously.  Have a wonderful day

11:03 am
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Hard for me to believe to contact the otherworld by tarot (I had the Crowley tarot years ago) but I never tried it.

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Post edited 11:21 am – August 3, 2009 by Empathy


I have asked if something 'terrible' happened to Michael as this is a question you have all been asking me in PMS. I have put this question to Zen tarot with mediation. This reply is very symbolic so please think about what it says to you personally. In a direct answer to the actual wording of my question, this tarot does not seem to consider the word 'terrible' the most appropriate phrasing. This card is a 9 and nines are for completion. It is simply the end of an era and we are being asked to accept this. This card tells us that what has seemed to occur was the time that was picked and I dont pick up any terrible vibes from this card at all. I sense more of an 'understanding' in this completion that what needed to be done was done.


Only if your meditation has brought you a light that shines in every night will even death not be a death to you but a door to the divine. With the light in your heart, death itself is transformed into a door, and you enter into the universal spirit; you become one with the ocean. And unless you know the oceanic experience, you have lived in vain. Now is always the time, and the fruit is always ripe. You just need to gather courage to enter into your inner forest. The fruit is always ripe and the time is always the right time. There is no such thing as wrong time.

Ripeness


When the fruit is ripe, it drops from the tree by itself. One moment it hangs by a thread from the branches of the tree, bursting with juice. The next moment it falls–not because it has been forced to fall, or has made the effort to jump, but because the tree has recognized its ripeness and simply let it go. When this card appears in a reading it indicates that you are ready to share your inner riches, your 'juice'. All you need to do is relax right where you are, and be willing for it to happen. This sharing of yourself, this expression of your creativity, can come in many ways–in your work, your relationships, your everyday life experiences. No special preparation or effort on your part is required. It is simply the right time.


EMPATHYX



Hi Empathy,

Thanks for coming back and talking with us.  I am glad that you are on our side in believing.

1:58 pm
August 3, 2009


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Empathy said:

Just for the record. Michaels message was extremely powerful.

Michael Jackson: ‘They Don’t Care About Us,’ banned prison version

YOUTUBE HERE.

http://www.sfbayview.com/2009/…..tertainer/

“They Don’t Care About Us” is the fourth single from Michael Jackson’s 1996 album “HIStory.” The song remains one of the most controversial pieces Jackson ever composed. In the U.S., media scrutiny surrounding alleged antisemitic lyrics were the catalyst for Jackson altering a couple of words in the lyrics.

Responding to criticism by the New York Times, Jackson said: “The idea that these lyrics could be deemed objectionable is extremely hurtful to me, and misleading. The song in fact is about the pain of prejudice and hate and is a way to draw attention to social and political problems. I am the voice of the accused and the attacked. I am the voice of everyone. I am the skinhead, I am the Jew, I am the Black man, I am the white man. I am not the one who was attacking. It is about the injustices to young people and how the system can wrongfully accuse them. I am angry and outraged that I could be so misinterpreted.”

The song was accompanied by two music videos directed by Spike Lee. The first was shot in the Dona Marta favela, or shantytown, of Rio de Janeiro, where state authorities tried to ban all production over fears the video would damage their image, the area and prospects of staging the 2004 Olympics. Still, the residents of the area were happy to see the singer, hoping their problems would be made visible to a wider audience.

Jackson collaborated with 200 members of the cultural group Olodum, “who swayed to the heavy beat of Salvador’s ‘samba-reggae’ music.” The media interest surrounding the music video exposed Olodum to 140 countries around the world. It brought them worldwide fame and increased their credibility in Brazil.
The second video was shot in a prison and contains real video footage of police attacking Blacks and of the Ku Klux Klan, war, genocide, starving children, assassination, execution and other infamous human rights abuses by the state. This is the first time that Jackson made a second music video for a single.
Commercially, the song became a Top 10 hit in all European countries. In the U.S., radio stations were reluctant to play the controversial composition; however, it managed to peak at No. 30 on the Billboard Hot 100.

This information was gleaned from Wikipedia.org.


OMG! I dont know if I should just cry or smile. This is such good news. Thank you Empathy.

2:06 pm
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Post edited 3:15 am – August 4, 2009 by Empathy


Hello and good afternoon to everyone here. I just want to say thank you for some lovely messages I have received. I will reply to them all though I am pretty slow with the PM system.


I have still been looking at the tarot for Michael. I am still of the impression that we have to let him go. Everything I have been getting is pointing to that . The main message has been to let the past go. I dont think that is any clearer. There was another message I received twice before and I will repeat it again but I am always concerned that if people read anything I have written that they really do read what I say in the context it was meant.


One thing that has not been mentioned in the press that I am aware of is a car accident.( or a vehicle with wheels) I do NOT KNOW if this has anything personally to do with Michael himself but it comes up as a situation that has not been mentioned. There seems to have been a car accident that involved someone who was drinking and driving or under the influence of something.

I do not know if this will show itself in further reports or not but it came up in tarot in July and it reappeared here again. Once more I will say that I do not know if this has anything to do with Michael himself, but it may be to do with someone around or connected to him.

Tarot is very symbolic and we have to be extremely careful on interpretation – I have tried to just give the information that has come.

I also see that there was an estrangement with family that might have been self imposed because there were too many demands on Michael himself. He could not reach the demands. There was also a situation going on about a blonde child or young blonde person. I do not get everything right so I have to just put up what I do get and hope that others can sort it out – I am not involved in all the details regarding Michael as some others are on this forum.

I saw a document or a letter or a contract that was produced – but there was something about it that brought a kind of shock/surprise and it did really contribute to the events that followed. I also feel that someone was 'watching' michael from a distance but again I am not sure who that was or why. Tarot saw Michael in a dressing gown receiving a message whether in person or on paper. A messenger in tarot can be either. There is absolutely no indication in the tarot that Michel committed suicide. He did have a bad back and his back was in severe pain in the period before we heard the news about him. He had burdens placed on him that was too much for anyone to carry. When I say this I mean it. I also seemed to see that Michael was very surprised about a child that he had not seen for some time and I feel that someone was asking him to take responsibility for some reason or another.

I do think the Jackson family have tried to help Michael – I think Michael had a problem with religion which ostracised him from certain people. He was not prepared to do what other people wanted him to do with religious matters.

At the current time I have Michael 'healing' – whether passed or not – he is not coming back as the Michael Jackson that people are remembering. Its harsh but people have to let go of crushes and childhood illusions of an idol. It is,nt even fair to say that because I know there are those who would be hurt by it – he wanted to be seen as a person. Many here have already realised this. It must be realised once and for all.  Michael comes to me by way of the RED CROSS – therefore he is healing slowly.

I have my own thoughts on the matter but I think there might be further negative situations that might be coming out in the press in the future. Personally Im going to ignore them. I see in my own mind a picture of Michael 'imprisoned' there is some kind of reality to that whichever way you want to look at it. He cant go forward and too much has been done for him to go back.

Michel Jackson should never have been an unhappy person – it would have helped if people had not preyed on his generosity but that is a fargone statement now. People who knew him best are silent out of true respect. They are not going to get involved with the 'fuss' because when you get involved with the 'fuss' it lets people push buttons. Tarot tells me they wont allow their buttons to get pushed and they cover themselves in armour. Rightly so.

The tarot does not reveal where Michael is and keeps it as a closely guarded secret regardless of his condition. He is protected by someone/people  who really love him. I am of the impression this will not be revealed because cupids will rush in if they have the key.

That speaks for itself. Fans are wonderful but this is a time in history for fans to stand back. Im sorry but that is what I am told.

The situation regarding a blonde person which came to me as a young person – which could be a child or someone young is a secret.

The car incident I do not understand – if it relates to Michael he may have fallen out of his wheelchair at one point. Its very relative to the Chariot reversed. Other tarot readers will nod at that as it could be either of those interpretations.

Investigation the situation around Michael I am squarely given the MOON. We have been asked to accept that he has passed over – the Moon also represents dangerous and perilous times but also it represents the UNREVEALED. Some people are barking up the wrong tree on the case of Michael – and the real truth slips silently under cover.

But one thing I do feel that is a profound message to me personally is to say thank you to everyone. Love and appreciation for work and caring from you all to Michael is huge. He did love his fans but he could not live up to what you wanted him to be.

All I can see is someone who is nosey and funny. Hands in every pie and inquisitive and fascinated by everything. Michael was absolutely enthralled by anything interesting to him. Some things would be more interesting to him then most but if he found something he would spend hours on that one thing working it out.

Appreciation and love is respected by him – but tarot tells me that he was the most insecure person and unable to actually feel that he really was the Michael Jackson up there in the lights. It was almost as though that was the public persona and what you really have is someone who is a totally different identity. Tarot shows and supports a declined interest in creating music. Loving music but 'over the magic of producing it' what else could he produce to top what he had already done. It was time to move on and gravitate towards other areas of interests.   The FILM that is coming out – thats very interesting – there is a special message about that.

Tarot tells you to 'roll the film backwards'…that is a very symbolic message and Im not going to explain that at all.

Michael appeared in the tarot laughing. He is basically a naughty little boy – and he knows it. There are areas you have to apply that to and all these messages are seperate – not to be stuck together to form some story or explanation to suit – they are glimpses and snippets.

Remorse is let go of. Michael Jackson is free. Like I said before, if you love him you will set him free. Dont cling – I sense that he is ridding himself of bad karma and he should be allowed to do this. Nobody should ever get stuck in the past. The future is not yet but the past is dead. He cannot move backwards or forwards he is stuck between those two worlds right now. Only understanding can set him free.

Are you willing to accept that?


Empathyx

The tarot represents past present and future and I cannot claim to be 100 per cent accurate I just do my best with what I am given.


Just one other thing – Michael Jackson had a connection to San Francisco he gave me the Golden Gates.


Sorry I replied to the wrong post earlier.


OMG! I dont know if I should just cry or smile. This is such good news. Thank you Empathy.

3:05 pm
August 3, 2009


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monalisa said:

Jori said:

Empathy,

Thanks for helping us to reign in and corral the emotion and gut-wrenching grief that surrounds this situation. Just as the '9' card intimates, our board here was 'ripe' for your intervention.

Ever,

Jori


Wow, thanks Jori, just perfect the way you worded that; my sentiments exactly, wish I was as good with words as you & some others on here!



Thanks Monalisa! You are too kind.. 

You are quite the wordsmith yourself, girl! I wish that I was endowed with your gift of visual artistry. You are AMAZING, and it's so awesome to interact with someone who created a beautiful work for Michael. I'm honored. Truly.

Mistake not kindness for weakness.

3:18 pm
August 3, 2009


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Empathy,

Thanks again for these nuggets of widsom.  I can't say enough about the time and effort that you have dedicated to the healing of the good people here, myself included.

I don't understand it all, but wherever he is, and whatever he's doing, Michael is gone.

Thank you for the peace and resolution, Empathy. It's priceless.


Your pal,

Jori


Mistake not kindness for weakness.

5:37 pm
August 3, 2009


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I believe that Michael will not come back as the person that the world has known. I have believed this from the beginning. Where this thought came from, I cannot say. I am not very spiritual in the traditional sense and I don't use divination. Until a few days ago I have always dismissed Tarot, stating that I did not believe in it. Empathy's posts have provided me with a depth of understanding that no theoretical textbook could have provided. I cannot say that I understand Tarot completely but Empathy's posts have a very peaceful quality about them and most of all, her posts make sense to me. Her statements in response to questions that she posed and questions that were posed to her are incredibly accurate and meaningful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzA67v3hj04

6:33 pm
August 3, 2009


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Jori said:

monalisa said:

Jori said:

Empathy,

Thanks for helping us to reign in and corral the emotion and gut-wrenching grief that surrounds this situation. Just as the '9' card intimates, our board here was 'ripe' for your intervention.

Ever,

Jori


Wow, thanks Jori, just perfect the way you worded that; my sentiments exactly, wish I was as good with words as you & some others on here!



Thanks Monalisa! You are too kind..

You are quite the wordsmith yourself, girl! I wish that I was endowed with your gift of visual artistry. You are AMAZING, and it's so awesome to interact with someone who created a beautiful work for Michael. I'm honored. Truly.


The honor is mine Jori, really, between you, and Empathy, and all of the other people on this website, including the person who started it, who are concerned for Michael's well-being and taking care of each other, I'm floored by the outpouring of generosity. Michael must be very proud at what he's inspiring

‘Te quiero siempre mi amor … sé que un día volverás’

11:19 pm
August 3, 2009


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Post edited 4:21 pm – August 4, 2009 by Empathy


REASON FOR LEAVING YOU ALL IS SELF EXPLANATORY BELOW.


Message from Empathy to BB otherwise known as JIM PANSE. ( Scroll back a couple of pages for their pleasantries)


I am realising you are the username Jim Panse who wrote a scathing post to me in a tarot thread that I created. I usually always understand that people are very unsure about tarot so I dont expect people to acknowledge it if they dont want to. Its really up to the individual so I was disappointed with your post towards me but I still did,nt understand it. The reason I did,nt understand it is because I genuinely did come here to try to help people. There are a lot of people here who are genuinely upset and I only wanted to offer them what insights I have had none of which I thought were offensive. I have practised tarot for 20 or more years and Im no amateur at this but everything I have ever done I have done freely because I do care about people. You may not know me and you have every right to your opinion of tarot, but as a person you have no idea how much work or help I have given to people or the hours I have spent when I could easily have just got on with my own life. I dont do that, I help people who have had cancer, who are dying, who are divorcing or who are losing their children and it takes hours of my time and everything I do voluntarily. I tell you this because I came here completely genuinely – never to offend anybody or hurt anybody and I am terribly sorry that somehow I must have offended you.

I would like you to reply to me to at least explain what you meant by your post – it is wrong to attack someone who spends hours helping others. Unless you spend the time that I spend doing this you wont realise how offensive it is to make suggestions that I have no idea what light and love are all about.

My whole life is dedicated to light and love and hundreds of people that I have helped could attest to that including many here already.

Life is about giving and I give. All I ask of you is to explain to me why you have raised suspicion about me when I have a good solid background of my work which HAS been completely voluntary for many missing children and people .

I thought I should ask you this.

Empathy


This was the reply from -

BB said: ( otherwise known as JIM PANSE in this thread)

SOMETIMES ONE HAS TO BE HUMBLE, PRUDENT, AND RESPECTFULL WITH  SPIRITUAL MESSAGES AND JUST BE QUIET..

Karma is a bitch, btw. Just a reminder….. Smile

Bye now. Have a good life and hopefully you'll find more children once you get off Michael Jackson's ass.


*****************


So bearing that all in mind and knowing that I have genuinely protected Michael Jackson WITH my tarot I am really not prepared to give this person any more amunition. They are rude ignorant and know have no concept of why all of you people are here.


Much love AND LIGHT to all the wonderful people here.


EMPATHYX


perhaps admin would now like to delete my account. Thank you.

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EM said:

Post edited 4:21 pm – August 4, 2009 by Empathy


REASON FOR LEAVING YOU ALL IS SELF EXPLANATORY BELOW.


Message from Empathy to BB otherwise known as JIM PANSE. ( Scroll back a couple of pages for their pleasantries)


I am realising you are the username Jim Panse who wrote a scathing post to me in a tarot thread that I created. I usually always understand that people are very unsure about tarot so I dont expect people to acknowledge it if they dont want to. Its really up to the individual so I was disappointed with your post towards me but I still did,nt understand it. The reason I did,nt understand it is because I genuinely did come here to try to help people. There are a lot of people here who are genuinely upset and I only wanted to offer them what insights I have had none of which I thought were offensive. I have practised tarot for 20 or more years and Im no amateur at this but everything I have ever done I have done freely because I do care about people. You may not know me and you have every right to your opinion of tarot, but as a person you have no idea how much work or help I have given to people or the hours I have spent when I could easily have just got on with my own life. I dont do that, I help people who have had cancer, who are dying, who are divorcing or who are losing their children and it takes hours of my time and everything I do voluntarily. I tell you this because I came here completely genuinely – never to offend anybody or hurt anybody and I am terribly sorry that somehow I must have offended you.

I would like you to reply to me to at least explain what you meant by your post – it is wrong to attack someone who spends hours helping others. Unless you spend the time that I spend doing this you wont realise how offensive it is to make suggestions that I have no idea what light and love are all about.

My whole life is dedicated to light and love and hundreds of people that I have helped could attest to that including many here already.

Life is about giving and I give. All I ask of you is to explain to me why you have raised suspicion about me when I have a good solid background of my work which HAS been completely voluntary for many missing children and people .

I thought I should ask you this.

Empathy


This was the reply from -

BB said: ( otherwise known as JIM PANSE in this thread)

SOMETIMES ONE HAS TO BE HUMBLE, PRUDENT, AND RESPECTFULL WITH  SPIRITUAL MESSAGES AND JUST BE QUIET..

Karma is a bitch, btw. Just a reminder….. Smile

Bye now. Have a good life and hopefully you'll find more children once you get off Michael Jackson's ass.


*****************


So bearing that all in mind and knowing that I have genuinely protected Michael Jackson WITH my tarot I am really not prepared to give this person any more amunition. They are rude ignorant and know have no concept of why all of you people are here.


Much love AND LIGHT to all the wonderful people here.


EMPATHYX


perhaps admin would now like to delete my account. Thank you.


Do not leave us due to one ignorant person please! You have brought so much light and love into my life with your words of wisdom and brought us together and put our minds at ease. You are keeping me sane in this whole mess honestly and I hate to think your feelings were hurt due to that person because you clearly have such a beautiful soul. Reconsider please?

By the way at no stage were you ever disrespectful of Michael or us, or not humble or whatever he was insinuating.

I have the utmost respect for you.

Light and Love right back at you and all the great people here.


3:46 am
August 4, 2009


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